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Thomas N. Frisby family manuscript
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What this record proves
Accepted claims citing this source at confirmed or supported: a source of this tier is a lead, so a claim here is supported only because tier 1–2 evidence it cites alongside this source states it.
| Claim | Person | States | Status | Tier | Review |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
claim:faye-frisby:parent-of:1 | Easter Fay Frisby | parent-of A.J. Frisby | supported | 3 · compiled genealogy | accepted |
claim:allen-james-frisby:spouse-of:1 | A.J. Frisby | spouse-of Thelma Jean Karr Frisby | supported | 1 · original record | accepted |
claim:allen-james-frisby:parent-of:1 | A.J. Frisby | parent-of Thomas Newton Frisby | confirmed | 1 · original record | accepted |
claim:thelma-kerr-frisby:parent-of:1 | Thelma Jean Karr Frisby | parent-of Thomas Newton Frisby | confirmed | 1 · original record | accepted |
What it does not prove
Claims citing this source at reconstructed, conditional or needs-verification, or demoted on review (downgraded): the source is a lead or partial corroboration for these, not proof.
| Claim | Person | States | Status | Tier | Review |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
claim:allen-james-frisby:name:1 | A.J. Frisby | A.J. Frisby | conditional | 3 · compiled genealogy | accepted |
claim:thomas-n-frisby:associated-with:2 | Thomas Newton Frisby | associated-with Joseph Benjamin “J.B.” Saunders Jr. (lead) | conditional | 4 · family testimony | accepted |
Open questions touching these claims
What documentary chain connects the Saunders family to Thomas Newton Frisby? His Texas birth certificate now confirms A.J. Frisby and Thelma Jean Karr as his parents, while Tom Frisby's manuscript and family emails provide the remaining family testimony for Fay → A.J. and J.B. Saunders Jr. as Fay's brother and Thomas's great-uncle.
- Status
- open
- Next action
- The Thomas parentage portion is answered by Texas birth certificate K6GF-MKL. Resolve only the remaining Saunders generation reading with Easter Fay's Texas death certificate no. 86199, the 1900 Hill County and 1910/1920 Saunders census images, Joseph B. Saunders Sr.'s obituary/death record, and a full copy of Joseph Benjamin Saunders Jr.'s 1989 obituary. Do not expand A.J.'s initials or promote Saunders kinship without those records.
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Related claims
claim:allen-james-frisby:parent-of:1— A.J. Frisby: parent-of Thomas Newton Frisby confirmedclaim:thelma-kerr-frisby:parent-of:1— Thelma Jean Karr Frisby: parent-of Thomas Newton Frisby confirmedclaim:faye-frisby:parent-of:1— Easter Fay Frisby: parent-of A.J. Frisby supportedclaim:allen-james-frisby:spouse-of:1— A.J. Frisby: spouse-of Thelma Jean Karr Frisby supportedclaim:thomas-david-frisby:spouse-of:1— Thomas David Frisby: spouse-of Easter Fay Frisby supportedclaim:thomas-david-frisby:parent-of:1— Thomas David Frisby: parent-of A.J. Frisby supportedclaim:joseph-b-saunders-sr:parent-of:2— Joseph B. “J.B.” Saunders Sr.: parent-of Easter Fay Frisby conditionalclaim:jb-saunders:sibling-of:1— Joseph Benjamin “J.B.” Saunders Jr.: sibling-of Easter Fay Frisby conditionalclaim:thomas-n-frisby:associated-with:2— Thomas Newton Frisby: associated-with Joseph Benjamin “J.B.” Saunders Jr. (lead) conditional
Which Joseph B. Saunders was Easter Fay Frisby's brother: Joseph B. Saunders Sr. (1861–1933), as the family reports, or Joseph Benjamin Saunders Jr. (1901–1989), as her 1982 obituary and his memorial read — and was Sr. therefore her father? This question exists so that the dataset asks it instead of assuming an answer (conflict:saunders-generations-fay-relationship).
- Status
- open
- Next action
- Easter Fay's Texas death certificate no. 86199 (1982), which states her parents at tier 2 and is the single most decisive record on this line; the 1900 census of Hill County, Texas and the 1910 and 1920 census of Tulsa and Creek County, Oklahoma for the Saunders household as images, not name indexes (Fay aged 9 in 1900; a “J B” aged 9 in the 1910 household a contributor transcribes); Joseph B. Saunders Sr.'s own obituary and Oklahoma death record (1933, Creek County) for his children and surviving siblings; Joseph Benjamin Saunders Jr.'s 1989 obituary in a copy that carries the survivors the Find a Grave transcription omits; and Texas and Oklahoma marriage, land and probate records for Joseph B. Saunders and Irene (McQuatters) Saunders, which would tie or untie “McQuatters” from “Irene Imogene”. None of these promotes any kinship down to Thomas N. Frisby, which needs the record named in question:thomas-n-frisby:parentage.
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Related claims
claim:joseph-b-saunders-sr:parent-of:1— Joseph B. “J.B.” Saunders Sr.: parent-of Joseph Benjamin “J.B.” Saunders Jr. supportedclaim:faye-frisby:name:1— Easter Fay Frisby: Easter Fay Frisby supportedclaim:thomas-n-frisby:associated-with:2— Thomas Newton Frisby: associated-with Joseph Benjamin “J.B.” Saunders Jr. (lead) conditional
When did Thelma Jean Karr Frisby live, and does a marriage record name her as A. J. Frisby's wife? Her son's Texas birth certificate now names her as Thomas Newton Frisby's mother, and the 1910 census links her to Millard Eugene Karr's household.
- Status
- open
- Next action
- Search Smith and Grayson County marriage indexes c. 1928–1932 for FRISBY A. J. + KARR/CARR/KERR Thelma; then the Texas Death Index and Tyler cemetery records for a death date. Parentage is answered; the spouse relationship stays supported until a marriage record is read.
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Related claims
claim:thelma-kerr-frisby:name:1— Thelma Jean Karr Frisby: Thelma Jean Karr Frisby confirmedclaim:allen-james-frisby:spouse-of:1— A.J. Frisby: spouse-of Thelma Jean Karr Frisby supportedclaim:thelma-kerr-frisby:parent-of:1— Thelma Jean Karr Frisby: parent-of Thomas Newton Frisby confirmed
Conflicts touching these claims
No conflict lists a claim citing this source.
Evidence tier and review status
This source is tier 4 · family testimony — proves? No, except for living current-family facts. A claim’s tier is the best tier among all its sources, so a claim listed here may sit at a stronger tier than this source when it also cites a stronger record.
| Claim tier | Status | Review | Claims |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 · original record | confirmed | accepted | 2 |
| 1 · original record | supported | accepted | 1 |
| 3 · compiled genealogy | conditional | accepted | 1 |
| 3 · compiled genealogy | supported | accepted | 1 |
| 4 · family testimony | conditional | accepted | 1 |
People, branch and canvas
Each person a citing claim is about, with their profile and their card on the interactive tree.
- A.J. Frisby (canvas)
- Easter Fay Frisby (canvas)
- Thelma Jean Karr Frisby (canvas)
- Thomas Newton Frisby (canvas)
- Mixon and DeCuir chapter — a branch chapter for people these claims are about · chapter reviewed
- Frisby chapter — a branch chapter for people these claims are about · chapter reviewed
- Open the tree on A.J. Frisby — the canvas with the first cited person selected and their evidence open
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